In this episode of the Ready For Takeoff podcast we chat with airline pilot Phil Pagoria, who "paid his dues" working his way up in the civilian flying environment. He traded flying jobs the way we recommend, the way Tarzan used branches: he held onto one until he grabbed hold of another. And now, after flying for a commuter airline, a supplemental carrier, and a semi-major carrier, he's now a pilot for one of the BIG THREE. You can listen to the interview right here, but we'd prefer you Subscribe to our podcast and leave us a Review!Phil's contact information: phil.pagoria@readyfortakeoffpodcast.com